The controversy is that an early 14th Passover is the correct one as practised under Herbert and not a later 14th early 15th night. Or is it?
Now as far as we are concerned the bible is the most scientifically accurate book that has ever been produced.
There is no such thing as a 24 hour day in the sense that we have
24 hours of daylight or sun. Christ shows this in John 11:9 when he says--are
there not 12 hours in a DAY? So that at the spring equinox we have equal amounts
of 12 night and 12 hours day. In our dictionary ISBN 0 550 10255 8 page 1139,
one of the definitions is correct; from sunset to sunrise.
This can be found in cd 57 and Exodus.16:4 onwards and specifically Ex.16:24
And they laid it (manna) up (overnight) till the morning, as Moses bade: and it
did not stink, neither was there any worm therein.
Because the manna did not stink on the night of the Sabbath which precedes
the Sabbath day. The manna was fresh to eat on the Sabbath day each Sabbath day
for 52 weeks of the year and this went on for 40 years. This is a sum total of
2082 time emphasising the Sabbath night of non stinking manna. Where does the 40
years come from? Exodus 16:35 and Neh. 9:21 In similar fashion: From the evening at the end of one day to the evening of the following day is
the period of Atonement. Lev. 23:32. The Atonement night precedes the Atonement
day.
The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the feast of
tabernacles.Lev.23:34. The night before is the first night of tabernacles. The fifteenth day of the first month is the first day of unleavened bread.
Lev 23:6. The night before is the first night of unleavened bread. This last bit
can be proven. The same goes for the fourteenth day of the first month. The fourteenth night
precedes the fourteenth day. From sunset of the 13th to sunset of the
14th is the preparation of the Passover slaughter.
Unleavened bread is the connecting link between the fifteenth DAY of
unleavened bread; and the previous NIGHT of unleavened bread. By sunset of the 14th the blood was on the door posts. Once the sun had set
on the fourteenth DAY we go into the early NIGHT of the 15th the
blood is on the doorposts and the lamb is being roasted. Not eaten. Then about 7
in the night (our time) or the first hour of the 15th night the lamb was about
to be eaten WITH THE UNLEAVENED BREAD Ex 12:8. The blood still being on the
doorposts. So that at midnight of the 15th, 6 hours after the meal was started,
God passed over Ex. 12:29 and Ex.11:4, at midnight; the night of the full moon.
God saw the blood on the door posts and passed over the Israelites. Ex 12:13 So
the Passover was at midnight of the 15th.
God did NOT say to the Israelites that they had to remain in
their houses until morning. The term morning was used. It is a
fabrication used by ministers to discredit exactly what God said. There are three points.
1;What God actually said.
2; What Moses said and subsequently broke his own rule.
And 3;The numbers game. This is just to prove something that is not provable.
1; What did God say? He is speaking in Ex.12 verse 1.And the Lord spake unto
Moses and Aaron. Verse 8.And they shall eat the flesh in that NIGHT, roast with
fire and UNLEAVENED BREAD; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it. Verse 10.And
ye shall let nothing it remain until the morning; and that which remaineth of it
until the morning ye shall burn with fire. Verse 11.And thus shall ye eat it;
with your loins girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand;
and ye shall eat it in HASTE: it is the Lord's Passover.
Please note it is eating the meat and not leaving the meat until the morning
that is the important thing to God.
2; What did MOSES say. Verse 21.Then Moses called for all the elders of
Israel, and said unto them........ verse 22 and none of you shall go out of the
door of his house until the morning.
Moses did NOT say exactly as God said. Moses was covering his backside and
being human did not want any mistakes. However Moses blew his own instruction. Because Pharaoh, verse 30...Called for Moses and Aaron by night. verse 31.
When Pharaoh called Moses went to him. IN THE NIGHT. Pharaoh said get out. Which
they did. Moses went out into the night because he was aware that the death
threat was now over. Then Moses took the Israelites out of Egypt by night, Deut 16:1.
3; The last thing is the numbers game. The false ministers and the early 14th
ers say the numbers involved could not have made it out of Egypt in one night. I
personally don't care whether God took out one Israelite or one billion. Because
in verse 42 says It is a NIGHT to be much observed unto the Lord for BRINGING
THEM OUT FROM THE LAND OF EGYPT. And I am not going to argue with God.
The connecting link between the 15th Passover night and the
15th day; and the 14th sunset to early 15th
Passover night is the unleavened bread.
This is because in Ex. 12:8 And they shall eat the flesh in that NIGHT, roast
with fire and UNLEAVENED BREAD.
And that which they eat in HASTE; is the LORD'S PASSOVER. They eat it on the
15th night. As the Jews do now. The day following the eating of the
Passover flesh with unleavened bread is the 1st day of unleavened or
15th day. This is the first 24 hour period of unleavened bread from
sunset on the 14th to the sunset of the 15th .
On the night of the 14th the lamb was alive and kicking. As the
sun rose on the 14th day in the morning the lamb was alive and
kicking.
At midday of the 14th the lamb was alive, as Christ was. At 3 o'clock in the
afternoon of the 14th the lamb was slain and Christ died.
This is the Night to be much observed Ex.12:42 This night is also the first
night of unleavened bread eaten with lamb. Ex. 12:8. The day of the 15th they
were marching out of Egypt. Now it is pointed out in Finch: Paul R.Finch The Passover Papers. ISBN 1-57502-736-41998 Sunrise Publications
.Page 270 that Dugger and Dodd says that- The fourteenth is here, as everywhere else in
the Scriptures, the Passover day. It was to be kept, and it was kept, in it's
entirety on the fourteenth day Dugger and Dodd simply could not understand that when the sun has set a new
night has begun. They are correct that the word fifteen is not mentioned in
Ex.12 but the in principle it is. In the 15th night they shall eat
the flesh with unleavened bread verse Ex.12: verse 8. And in Ex.12 verse 11-and
ye shall eat it in haste; it is the lords Passover. The following day, the
15th day is the first DAY of unleavened bread. The 14th
day in the evening is the slaughter of the Passover; 3 hours later in the
15th night is the eating of the Passover lamb verse 8 and 11. Repeating what God said. 1; What did God say? He is speaking in Ex.12 verse 1.And the Lord spake unto
Moses and Aaron. Verse 8.And they shall eat the flesh in that NIGHT, roast with
fire and UNLEAVENED BREAD; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it. Verse 10.And
ye shall let nothing it remain until the morning; and that which remaineth of it
until the morning ye shall burn with fire. Verse 11.And thus shall ye eat it;
with your loins girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand;
and ye shall eat it in HASTE: it is the Lord's Passover. Because Pharaoh, verse 30...Called for Moses and Aaron by night. verse 31.
When Pharaoh called Moses went to him. IN THE NIGHT (of the 15th). Pharaoh said
get out. Which they did. Moses went out into the night because he was aware that
the death threat was now over. Numbers 28:16 And the fourteenth day of the first month is the Passover of
the Lord. Verse 17, And in the FIFTEENTH day of this month is the feast: seven
day shall unleavened bread be eaten. Lev 23:5, In the fourteenth day of the
first month at EVEN is the lords Passover. Verse 6, And on the FIFTEENTH day of
the same month is the feast of unleavened unto the Lord: seven days ye must eat
unleavened Bread. Early 14th ers (which Herbert got from Dugger and Dodd)
clearly have a problem in that they do not allow for the fact that 24hrs before
Christ was on the Cross at midday when the sun stopped shining, Christ was
standing with Pilate and Herod nearby and passing Sentence condemned by the Jews
to the cross in
broad daylight and then scoured by the Roman Soldiers and put in prison for
the night. The early 14th ers have difficulty in fitting in the day that Christ was
sentenced to death.
There are three scriptures at the sixth hour. Luke 23:44; John 19:14 and Mark
15:33. Now as far as the early 14th ers are concerned John 19:14 at
the sixth hour means morning. The other two are obviously at noon or midday. There are a number of difficulties with an early six o'clock in the morning
of the 14th sentence. One is that would Pilate be giving out sentence
at the same time that the cock crowed after Peter had denied Christ three times?
Two, would Pilate and Herod be up at five o'clock in the morning to be preparing
for such actions and three would not Pilate and Herod have gone to bed the
14th night not knowing what was going to happen during the later
night/early morning. Four who would be the brave person to knock Herod up at
four o'clock in the morning knowing that they could lose their head after saying
that we have a mad jew for you to judge? Five there are simply too many things
to be gone through in the six hours from midnight to six in the morning. Matt.27:1-2 and when morning was come. Mark 15:1 shows when the morning was
come. Luke 22:66;And as soon as it was day. Pilate sends Christ to Herod, Luke
23:7.And the same day Luke 23:12 Pilate and Herod were made friends. Pilate and
Herod were enemies on the night of the so called 14th. Then in Luke
23:24 Pilate gives sentence, simon is forced to take the cross Luke 23:26. He
was also followed by a great company of people. Luke 23:27.
But to prove the bible is scientifically accurate in the laboratory sense one
needs three successes to "prove ones point" John 1:39 says it was the tenth hour; or 4 PM Roman time or 1600 hours on 24
John 4:6 says it was the sixth hour; or Noon or 12 hours on the 24
John 4:52 says it was the seventh hour; or 1 PM Roman time or 1300 on 24
John 11:9 says are there not twelve hour in a day? I.e 6 AM to 6PM Roman time
or 6 to 18 on the 24. So as far as we are concerned scientifically speaking, John 19:14 refers to
noon or midday. Check Time; Hebrew v
Roman. for the reasoning. Matthew; Mark; Luke and John agree.There is no
synoptics with John as an outcast.
The problem is overcome by having two preparation days. One being the
13th day where the sentence is carried out at midday; being the
preparation of the Passover in John 19:14. Then we have Christ carrying his
cross in broad daylight helped by Simon; all things being done slowly. Then on
the 14th day being the preparation before the High day John 19:31.42.
A single preparation period for the weekly sabbath is normally Thursday night
and Friday. Genesis 1:5 also points this out when it says that the dark period is called
night and the light period is called day. Morning is the time when the sun comes
up and evening is when the sun sets over the horizon. The evening and the morning is the first DAY. What is easier to say, the
evening and the morning is the first day OR the morning and the evening is the
first day. It is the same 12 hour period. One would NOT say from sunset to the
following morning is the first day as clearly one has gone through MIDNIGHT. Christ today if he were here would still keep the 15th night as
the Passover night as the Jews do. The bread and wine part would be done
anytime. Paul R.Finch The Passover Papers. ISBN 1-57502-736-41998 Sunrise Publications
Dictionary definitions of Pentecost
A Jewish festival held on the fiftieth day after the Passover1
Jewish festival (50 days after Passover) celebrating the end of the
Palestinian grain harvest;....2
1, Gen 1:14 - And God said, Let there be LIGHTS in the firmament of the
heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for SIGNS, and for
SEASONS, and for DAYS, and years:
2, Psalm 104:19 He appointed the MOON for SEASONS:
3, The moon changes its position over a 19 year time cycle.
4, Romans 3:2 because that unto the Jews were committed the oracles (laws) of
God.
5, Leviticus 23:15-16 And ye shall count unto you FROM the morrow after the
Sabbath, FROM the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave
offering; SEVEN Sabbaths shall be complete: even unto the morrow after
the SEVENTH Sabbath shall ye number fifty days:
Josh.5:10-12 And the children of Israel encamped in Gilgal and kept the Passover on the fourteenth day of the month at even in the plains of Jericho. And they did eat of the old corn of the land on the morrow after the Passover, unleavened cakes and parched corn on the selfsame day.
So we have to have seven Sabbaths (weekly Sabbaths) included in fifty clear
consecutive days.
6, Deut 16:9 (last part) begin to NUMBER the seven weeks from such time as
thou beginnest to put the SICKLE TO THE CORN. Its a working day, the day
following the full moon. The day part of the 16 Nissan.
Josephus The Complete works ISBN 0-8254 2952-8 page 79:
But on the second day of unleavened bread, which is the sixteenth day of the month. They FIRST partake of the fruits of the earth....They offer the first fruits.....on the fiftieth day which is Pentecost.
The wave sheaf was offered on the second day of unleavened bread.
Mr Cain is a Polymer Scientist retired now researching into energtics
Further proof of Roman time is Mark 15:25 and 34; third and ninth.
Acts 2:15 third or 9 am;3:1 ninth or 3 pm;10:9sixth or 12 noon;23:23 third
hour of night 9pm or 21.00
Matt.8:13 Healed same hour. 1pm 13.00.John 4:52 seventh;1pm or 13.00
Matt. 20:3 third hour (standing idle).5;sixth;ninth; 6 eleventh;9 elenth; 19
one hour.
Luke 22:7 send (day)27 great company.(day)
Now give the simple maths and logic.